r-Lab Dinner Extravaganza 12 12

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Tartufo, Pandora and pasta;

here are some notes from our the discussion during the dinner extravaganza.
J.G. Ballard: the Drowned World
not many people watched the Swamp monster movie, but it was essentially about an amphibian like humanoid species lost in the swamp.
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4 discussion points emerged on our discussion for the Swamp.
1. Salt. the level of salt in the water constitutes whether you are on dry land or on the beach seacoast.  this definition exists to confirm whether a house is to be built on the beach, or whether it is not on the beach. we heard you can lower salt ratio in order to demonstrate that the are is dry land.
2. Swamps by definition cannot be divided into property, for its fluid, changing properties. no property means 1 of the two essential aspects of utopia as defined by thomas more. Salt —Sale in italian, was the form of payment of the Roman army, hence Salario, or Salary. therefore a project which uses both salt and no property constitutes the two essentials of a More Utopia, as reinforced by Frederic Jameson, no property and no money.
3.we learned that sailors are never 100% guilty when assessed of an accident according to the rule of the sea. therefore, in a sea environment, responsibility for accidents is attributed according to percentage. therefore, we can never be more then a percentage guilty.
4. Swamps have been used historically to conserve food.
unfortunately we could not conclude on travel plans. we could do this project around any swamp, or the swamp we can visit in Slovenia, or we can just go to Venice, or we can go to Venice by boat from Trieste, a city at the intersection of empires.
please add comments, or should we set up a google group for those who are part of this coming workshop?

Bo’s suggested links from our discussion yesterday.

Last night was great! Here is the radioprogram I mentioned: http://sverigesradio.se/sida/avsnitt/985053?programid=950

At 26:05 they talk a little about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bog_butter

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Suggested by Orestis:

This is the talk I was referring to when I brought up the idea that salt could help us measure the limits and physical boundaries of the swamp.
Daniel Fernández Pascual is a guy that holds a project called Cooking Sections at the Royal Institute of Art in London in which they try to understand how food systems are being used in order to organize the world.

The part where he speaks about salt begins at 11.45 but I strongly suggest you dedicate 15 minutes to see the whole talk. For me it was key to understand how to establish strong visual relations between concepts and everyday life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIXJski4i7

Travel itinerary suggested by Francesca:

Zara was one of the most important city of the Venetian Republic. In 1947 was annexed to Yugoslavia and then to Croatia (Dalmatia/Dalmazia).
Rovigno was part of Italy until 1947 when it was annexed to Yugoslavia and finally it became part of Croatia (Istria).
Trieste is an Italian multicultural city on the border and has a really interesting cultural history.
Venice: Swamp project. (this is a really brief description, I guess there are many many other things I haven’t highlighted).
By the way, all of these cities are on the sea, are multicultural, crossed by several populations/migrations and have changed nationality (Venice was an independent Republic, then annexed to different countries from Austria to Italy. Generally its story is rooted on isolation – since it is an island- and on independence from a state /land).
Maybe we could start from these characteristics of identity migration / liquid identity and society (Bauman) to think about the swamp.
I found really interesting the “rule of the sea” about sailors’ guilt, it is much related to illegal migration too.
We could “follow” a shipping route between these cities that end up in the swamp of Venice, like a migrant narrative.

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